Before the Jungle Boys name became recognizable across the cannabis industry, the cultivation methods behind it were already being tested, documented and refined in public online forums. The story of JackMayOffer is the story of that early work.
2009: Forums Before the Brand
In 2009, Ivan was already operating substantial indoor cultivation rooms.
According to the original account, his setup included:
Two flip-flop rooms.
Approximately 30,000 watts per room.
Sealed CO₂ environments.
Under Current bucket systems.
Detailed cultivation records.
These operations were documented under the online identity JackMayOffer on THCFarmer and ICMag.
Years before Jungle Boys became internationally recognized, the forums provided a public record of Ivan's cultivation methods and results.
System Mastery: Data Over Arguments
JackMayOffer documented nearly every aspect of his cultivation systems.
The original account identifies:
Under Current modules.
Three-inch recirculation upgrades.
Sterile mother rooms.
Pure coco cultivation.
Canna nutrients.
Roots Excel.
His approach emphasized measurement and repeatability.
One statement from the original caption captures that philosophy:
"I don't want a pissing match. I want data."
Rather than relying on opinions, he documented the results of different growing methods.
2012: The Coco Bed Revolution
By 2012, Ivan had moved away from Under Current trees and developed a different cultivation system based on large coco beds.
The setup used:
Four-by-eight-foot coco beds.
Two four-by-four-foot Smart Pots per tray.
Sixteen bags of coco per setup.
Reused coco supported by OG Biowar tea.
The original account also identifies Heavy 16, Aptus and Sea Green as part of the cultivation program.
Aggressive defoliation became another defining element.
The caption recalls the statement:
"15 lbs of leaves a day."
This approach helped define the early Jungle Boys cultivation rooms.
Real Testing at Commercial Scale
JackMayOffer distinguished himself through repeated cultivation trials.
Rather than simply recommending products, he compared them under controlled conditions.
The original account identifies several experiments:
Heavy 16 versus Sensi.
Heavy 16 versus Dutch Master.
Sea Green versus no Sea Green.
Chow mix versus pure coco.
He also shared electrical conductivity progressions and lighting layouts.
Other growers reportedly described him as a scholar because of the amount of information he documented.
The original account presents his testing as unusual because it was being conducted at a substantial production scale.
WiFi 43: Finding the Keeper
One of the important genetic selections discussed on THCFarmer involved White Fire OG.
JackMayOffer documented phenotypes:
#3.
#43.
#80.
According to the original account, these selections represented different expressions of the variety.
His preferred plants leaned toward the OG characteristics he wanted.
The caption preserves his selection advice:
"The ones white in veg w/ strong stems are winners."
WiFi 43 became an important Jungle Boys cut.
Its structure, yield and OG characteristics helped establish the visual and cultivation identity associated with the brand.
Environmental Control
The original account emphasizes that JackMayOffer's work extended beyond nutrients and genetics.
He carefully documented environmental conditions.
These included:
Temperatures in the high 80s during stretch.
Temperatures in the low 70s during late flowering.
Wall fans running continuously.
Sloped trays draining to waste.
UV lighting in air-conditioning housings.
The detailed records reflected an engineering-oriented approach to cultivation.
Environmental consistency became part of the foundation for scaling production without sacrificing quality.
Pushing Production Limits
JackMayOffer also experimented with plant structure and production.
The original account describes plants that were:
Vegetated for two weeks.
Topped twice.
Reportedly producing 226 grams per individual plant.
The caption compares soil production, described as capped around 1.75 grams per watt, with the higher ceilings achieved through his systems.
These results became benchmarks within the cultivation discussions.
From JackMayOffer to Jungle Boys
When Jungle Boys emerged as a recognizable brand, experienced forum members recognized familiar cultivation methods.
The original account connects the early forum work with the later Jungle Boys approach:
Large cultivation rooms.
Detailed environmental control.
Coco-bed systems.
Data-driven experimentation.
OG-leaning genetic selections.
Structured production methods.
The caption presents the JackMayOffer playbook as an important foundation for the methodology that eventually became associated with Jungle Boys.
Legacy: The Work Before the Name
JackMayOffer's forum history provides an early look at the cultivation philosophy behind Jungle Boys.
Beginning in 2009, Ivan documented large-scale indoor systems, nutrient trials, environmental management and genetic selection.
By 2012, the development of coco beds and more refined cultivation practices marked another stage in that evolution.
His posts demonstrated an approach centered on experimentation and measurable performance.
Before Jungle Boys became a global name, the methods were already being discussed, tested and refined in public online forums.
Sources
nuggnotes. "Before the Jungle: The Rise of JackMayOffer." Instagram, 24 Dec. 2025, https://www.instagram.com/p/DSpyKcfACzi/.
The original nuggnotes account and the sole source for the room-level specifics and direct quotes flagged in the NOTEs below; the third-party sources that follow verify the JackMayOffer identity, the forum record itself, WiFi 43, and the TLC/Jungle Boys history.
"Planting the Seed: The Complete History of the Jungle Boys." Cannabis Now, 2018, https://cannabisnow.com/planting-the-seed-the-complete-history-of-the-jungle-boys/.
Interview with founder Ivan verifying the forum-era origins (he names OG Raskal among the forum friends he came up with), the opening of Nature's Green Cure in Santa Fe Springs, his partnership in and 2013 takeover of the Toluca Lake Collective (TLC) dispensary in Los Angeles, and WiFi #43 as an early find from a hunt of roughly a thousand seeds.
JACKMAYOFFER. "60 x 1000 Watts Under Current Hydro 20 Tons of AC and Some CO2." THCFarmer, 2010, https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/60-x-1000-watts-under-current-hydro-20-tons-of-ac-and-some-co2.19366/page-9?amp=1
JackMayOffer's own grow journal — two rooms on a flip-flop under 60 x 1000W with CO2 and Under Current systems — in which he posts his Canna base / Roots Excel regimen and the "15 lbs of leaves a day" defoliation line the draft quotes.
JACKMAYOFFER. "A Few Shots of My Rooms Growing in Beds with Some New Strains WIFI x SOUR D and..." THCFarmer, 2011, https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/a-few-shots-of-my-rooms-growing-in-beds-with-some-new-strains-wifi-x-sour-d-and.38592/page-15
His own coco-bed journal, verifying the bed build in his words (4x8 tray, two 4x4 Smart Pots, 8 bags of coco per pot), the Heavy 16 + Aptus program, coco reused for 2+ years with OG Biowar, and his own White Fire #43 flower posts.
"WiFi 43 x ChemDog D." Breeders Direct Seed Co. / Humboldt CSI, https://www.breedersdirectseedco.com/Indica/Wifi-x-Chem-Dog
Breeder listing verifying that White Fire (WiFi) is OG Raskal's cross of Fire OG Kush x The White, and that the #43 selection is the Jungle Boys' pick.
"Need Facts on FIRE OG & WiFi #43." Rollitup, 2019, https://www.rollitup.org/t/need-facts-on-fire-og-wifi-43.988150/page-2
Forum corroboration stating plainly "Jackmayoffer is Ivan of jungle Boys. They did find wifi43," tying the forum identity to Ivan and to the WiFi 43 selection.
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